The EXACT SAME Jews who got us into Iraq are trying to get us into Iran
October 1, 2007
Neocons seek to justify action against Teheran - Telegraph
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October 1, 2007 Neocons seek to justify action against Teheran - Telegraph
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NSFW)</p> <p> <em> <p>Video courtesy <a href='http://www.amnesty.org/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Amnesty International</a>.</p></em> </p> <p>A man using the pseudonym Matthew Alexander has written <a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/28/AR2008112802242.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>a truly remarkable op-ed for the Washington Post</a> discussing effective interrogation of enemy combatants -- which most decidedly does not include torture: </p> <blockquote><p>I refused to participate in such practices, and a month later, I extended that prohibition to the team of interrogators I was assigned to lead. I taught the members of my unit a new methodology -- one based on building rapport with suspects, showing cultural understanding and using good old-fashioned brainpower to tease out information. I personally conducted more than 300 interrogations, and I supervised more than 1,000. 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Most surprisingly, they turned out to despise al-Qaeda in Iraq as much as they despised us, but Zarqawi and his thugs were willing to provide them with arms and money. I pointed this out to Gen. George Casey, the former top U.S. commander in Iraq, when he visited my prison in the summer of 2006. He did not respond.</p> <p>Perhaps he should have. It turns out that my team was right to think that many disgruntled Sunnis could be peeled away from Zarqawi. A year later, Gen. David Petraeus helped boost the so-called Anbar Awakening, in which tens of thousands of Sunnis turned against al-Qaeda in Iraq and signed up with U.S. forces, cutting violence in the country dramatically.</p> <p>Our new interrogation methods led to one of the war's biggest breakthroughs: We convinced one of Zarqawi's associates to give up the al-Qaeda in Iraq leader's location. On June 8, 2006, U.S. warplanes dropped two 500-pound bombs on a house where Zarqawi was meeting with other insurgent leaders. </p></blockquote> <p>If the moral argument cannot persuade the defenders of torture, then perhaps the practical one will. "Alexander" has <a href='http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1416573151' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>written a book on the subject</a> that I'm ordering today.</p> <p><a href='http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/0VR21DPymhJ1u_BvcCPbLWqUaXk/a' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/0VR21DPymhJ1u_BvcCPbLWqUaXk/i" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><div class="feedflare"> <a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?a=t5Fd5TJv' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?d=41" border="0"></img></a> </div>', '1228161522', '1228161521', '2008-12-01')
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INSERT INTO wp_bdprss_items_v3 (item_feed_id, item_url, item_name, text_body, item_update_time, item_time, item_date) VALUES ('37', 'http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/headzup-bushs-view-success', 'Headzup: Bush's View Of Success', '<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://www.youtube.com/v/S27SiZ9LFAk&hl=en&fs=1" width="300" height="243"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/S27SiZ9LFAk&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" /><param name="type" value="application/x-shockwave-flash" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="width" value="300" /><param name="height" value="243" /></object><p> From <a href='http://www.headzup.tv/wuhzup/index.php' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Headzup</a> Nov. 28, 2008.</p> <blockquote><p>President Bush talks about how he's very pleased with the Iraq war.</p></blockquote> <blockquote><p>Read more about it here--<a href='http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Bush_very_pleased_with_Iraq_war_out_11232008.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Bush "very pleased" with Iraq war outcome: report</a>.</p></blockquote> <p><a href='http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/auJzUHu_rpMJpU5R3509j0lS-g8/a' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/auJzUHu_rpMJpU5R3509j0lS-g8/i" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><div class="feedflare"> <a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?a=h4XmFhKR' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?d=41" border="0"></img></a> </div>', '1228161522', '1228161517', '2008-12-01')
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INSERT INTO wp_bdprss_items_v3 (item_feed_id, item_url, item_name, text_body, item_update_time, item_time, item_date) VALUES ('37', 'http://crooksandliars.com/bluegal/open-thread-37', 'Open Thread', '<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://www.youtube.com/v/v8q6yNVOcb4&hl=en&fs=1" width="300" height="243"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/v8q6yNVOcb4&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" /><param name="type" value="application/x-shockwave-flash" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="width" value="300" /><param name="height" value="243" /></object><p> from Hitchcock's <a href='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0038787/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Notorious</a> (1946). <a href='http://www.filmsite.org/noto2.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Filmsite.org</a> notes: </p> <blockquote><p><em>The film is known for having at the time of its production 'the longest kiss in film history.' [Director Alfred Hitchcock circumvented the Hollywood code limiting a kiss to three seconds by interrupting the kiss every three seconds, but they never once break their embrace.] </em></p></blockquote> <p>Open thread below...</p> <p><a href='http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/aZM5kpVMqAYpZ5plGTn1S7sov_8/a' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/aZM5kpVMqAYpZ5plGTn1S7sov_8/i" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><div class="feedflare"> <a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?a=iKEoVXyQ' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?d=41" border="0"></img></a> </div>', '1228161522', '1228161516', '2008-12-01')
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INSERT INTO wp_bdprss_items_v3 (item_feed_id, item_url, item_name, text_body, item_update_time, item_time, item_date) VALUES ('37', 'http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/chris-matthews-show-obamas-problems-w', 'The Chris Matthews Show: Obama's Problems Will Come From The Angry Left, Not Republicans', '<p><span class="clmediaDirectImage"><img src='http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/movieimages/2008/11/6870.dl.jpg' alt="The Chris Matthews Show: Obama's Problems Will Come From The Angry Left, Not Republicans" /></span><br /><span class='clMediaOld'><img src='http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/mediaimages/video_wmv_icon.gif' alt='icon' /> <a href='http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CMS-Angry-Left-112908.wmv?mid=6870' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Download</a> | <a href='http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/6870/24330' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Play</a> <img src='http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/mediaimages/video_qt_icon.gif' alt='icon' /> <a href='http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CMS-Angry-Left-112908.mov?mid=6870' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Download</a> | <a href='http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/qt/6870/24330' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Play</a></span> (h/t Heather)</p> <p><a href='http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/draft-obama-change' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>John Amato has blogged about thi</a>s and this clip from this week's <em>The Chris Matthews Show</em> is proof positive that the progressive blogosphere must be smart about picking battles in pushing a liberal agenda for America. Let's face it, you and I and the rest of the liberal blogosphere have been right more often than not and certainly exponentially over the Villagers that populate The Chris Matthews Show. But they're not ready to give up their coveted place at the table, and certainly not to upstart bloggers who don't have the decency to take them at their word any longer. </p> <p>So to those oh-so-wise Beltway bobbleheads, we will be the "angry left" that Obama must marginalize in order to have a successful presidency. It won't be the Republicans with their bag of obstructionist tricks, ones of which WaPo's Ceci Connolly doesn't even have memory, that give Obama a hard time, it will be us, the "angry left." We are the ones to not give Obama a "honeymoon period" and we will be the ones fighting him as he attempts to execute his agenda.</p> <p>Sigh. Do anyone of these chuckleheads ever consider that the reason the left has been so "angry" for the last eight plus years is that what we've said and what we've valued has been criticized, dismissed, sneered, condemned, denounced and our characters attacked? Of course not. And when the nation shows that they have awakened to what we've been saying all along and announced with their vote that they want to give the left a shot, we're still criticized, dismissed, sneered, condemned, denounced and our characters attacked because we might like to see some people actually reflective of our values in office. </p> <p>Good to see the open minds of the Very Serious Villagers remain. Would that they would be so condemning of those who have been so very wrong all this time.</p> <p>Transcripts (courtesy of Heather) below the fold</p> <p>MATTHEWS: But those kinds of issues that brought really bad news to a lot of, we had the Clinton administration with all the brain power they had and they had a lot of brain power, they were stymied. Right, David? All of the sudden they got the gays in the military hit them right between the eyes. They didn't want to bring it up and it came up as the first issue.</p> <p>IGNATIUS: They ran into the wall of cultural politics, wedge issues right in the beginning. You want to think, I want to think that one of the lessons of this election season is that the politics of division don't work. That one of the things that hurt McCain and Palin was that they were just too divisive and the country's sick of that. And so you'd think, you'd want to think the Republicans would get that message and they’ll be more careful on these wedge issues that that's going to be less important going forward for the Republicans than it's been.</p> <p>KAY: It's very hard in this climate to see people getting as exorcised about gays in the military as they did in 1992. I just can't...</p> <p>CONNOLLY: Well it may not be gays in the military but I guarantee you there are going to be hot button issues that are going to come up. You're already seeing some of that agitated.</p> <p>[crosstalk]</p> <p>MATTHEWS: If we try to put up the trade walls, are we going to have a fight on labor issues like this card check thing, about being able to organize individual decision making rather than a big voting election kind of thing. Those kind of issues can really, as you say, could divide the Democrats, right?</p> <p>CONNOLLY: Absolutely but here's the key to this: Rahm Emanuel, Chief of Staff. What did he do when he was in the House Democratic Caucus? He often was the person who had to break it to the liberals in that caucuses that things were not going to go their way.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: Who's going to break it to the blogosphere? They don't like anything that looks like a give to the right. Where are they doing to be on this thing? Are they going to give him a break if he doesn't go hard left and doesn't do what they want?</p> <p>WHITAKER: I think that Obama has to worry as much about the far left as he does about the far right. But look, you know I think that it could be a plus for him in some ways because I think they are going to give him what you might call a “Sista Soulja moment” when he can stand up to them.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: Right.</p> <p>WHITAKER: And talking to some veterans in those early Clinton wars who think that particularly this issue of the card check push by the labor unions to change the rules on organizing could be a moment for him either by delaying that, standing up to the unions, of positioning himself more in the middle and making it harder for the far right to position him the way they tried to during the campaign.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: You see that, David?</p> <p>IGNATIUS: This is where the economic crisis, you know, ends up being crucial because people are angry. The country's furious and a lot of these really divisive issues I think will come from the left, not from the right and they'll come from unions, from working people who are enraged at bailouts for big banks and wealthy executives and the pressure on Obama to check some what he'd like to do on the economy I think is going to be very strong from angry people.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: And you say the left is going to fight anything that looks too conciliatory?</p> <p>IGNATIUS: You can, it's been obvious now for the past few weeks that the anger in the country is working its way through Congress and it's, the bailouts might make sense in a macro-economic sense but they're increasingly tough politics.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: Bottom line, we asked the Matthews Meter, twelve of our regulars given the mountain of problems he faces will the right give Obama a longer than usual honeymoon. Our panel is always filled with cockeyed optimists. Eight say yes he gets a longer honeymoon from the right. Four say no, Katy you're with the optimists.</p> <p>KAY: I am. I'm not sure I'm cockeyed but I am probably an optimist. I think for all the reasons that we've been saying about the mood in the country and the desire to get things done I just don't think that the right at this particular juncture can be seen to stymie an economic agenda in particular. I think that they have to give him the benefit of the doubt for a period of time.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: Okay big time. Will the Republicans get out of his way and not use any obstructions to stop from getting through a big economic package once he gets in office.</p> <p>KAY: I think they'll give him...</p> <p>MATTHEWS: No procedural tricks.</p> <p>KAY: I think they'll give him three months.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: Three months.</p> <p>WHITAKER: Six months.</p> <p>CONNOLLY : I don't think they've figured out that kind of procedural trick.</p> <p>MATTHEWS: [laughs] You know what I mean. Filibuster, all kinds of ways to slow the…will they use those tools to slow him down?</p> <p>CONNOLLY: Doubt it.</p> <p>IGNATIUS: No ,the Republicans will help him out on the package. His problem is going to be with the left, not the Republicans.</p> <p><a href='http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/zfVgJkMdlBBbN7KQAWLT62qptKg/a' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/zfVgJkMdlBBbN7KQAWLT62qptKg/i" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><div class="feedflare"> <a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?a=SIYGaTV1' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?d=41" border="0"></img></a> </div>', '1228161522', '1228158026', '2008-12-01')
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INSERT INTO wp_bdprss_items_v3 (item_feed_id, item_url, item_name, text_body, item_update_time, item_time, item_date) VALUES ('37', 'http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/week-panel-concern-trolling-obama-adm', 'This Week Panel: Concern Trolling The Obama Administration To Be More Republican', '<p><span class="clmediaDirectImage"><img src='http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/movieimages/2008/11/6869.dl.jpg' alt="This Week Panel: Concern Trolling The Obama Administration To Be More Republican" /></span><br /><span class='clMediaOld'><img src='http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/mediaimages/video_wmv_icon.gif' alt='icon' /> <a href='http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TW-Bailout-Entitlements-113008.wmv?mid=6869' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Download</a> | <a href='http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/6869/24329' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Play</a> <img src='http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/mediaimages/video_qt_icon.gif' alt='icon' /> <a href='http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TW-Bailout-Entitlements-113008.mov?mid=6869' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Download</a> | <a href='http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/qt/6869/24329' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Play</a></span> (h/t Heather)</p> <p>Damn it, it's a center-right nation, and don't you forget it! </p> <p>I swear to you that is the editorial slant taken by pretty much all the bobbleheads, but none so nakedly as <em>This Week with George Stephanopoulos</em>. Note the make up of the panel is basically four Republicans to one Democrat (with all their concern trolling, I generously figure that Brazile and Stephanopoulos together equal just one Democrat). What's with that ratio? The American public has soundly and decisively voted against the GOP policies and the Bush doctrine, so what are frightened little Villagers to do but put on some former Bushies, Matthew Dowd and Torie Clarke, along with conservative stalwart George Will. </p> <p>George Will, the sagest one of all, metaphorically pats Donna Brazile on the head and suggests that perhaps all the doom and gloom on the economy is unnecessary, as if Donna Brazile is the one to blame for the bearish outlook. He suggests that the <a href='http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23601813/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>foreclosure rate isn't as bad as everyone seems to think</a>, that <a href='http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,24732177-643,00.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>the unemployment rolls aren't that bad</a> (WTF? 94% of the people who want to work are working? WANT to work?) and that this is strictly a financial sector problem, ignoring the fact that if the financial sector cannot lend money, it becomes a disaster to the consumer and small business owner as well. Typical Republican missing the forest for the trees. </p> <p>Meanwhile, former Pentagon spokesperson Torie Clarke rings the warning bell that all these bailouts (not questioned when AIG and BearStearns came a-calling, mind you) are going to cause us to "out-France France"! <em>Quel horreur</em>! And Matthew Dowd insists that if Obama really wants to represent change from how things are done in Washington, he's going to have to reject a Democratic party-led program.</p> <p>Um, huh? The logic of this escapes me. The American public has rejected GOP policies and rule and so therefore, Obama must reject a Democratic program? I have an idea for you, Matt (along with all of the ABC news bookers): how about we give a Democratic program (and a Democratic panel) a try for once? THAT would be a change.</p> <p><a href='http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/71WOgQplc35ZGzwnolN6xc1ohII/a' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedads.googleadservices.com/~a/71WOgQplc35ZGzwnolN6xc1ohII/i" border="0" ismap="true"></img></a></p><div class="feedflare"> <a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?a=84LTaoKD' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'><img src="http://feedproxy.google.com/~f/crooksandliars/YaCP?d=41" border="0"></img></a> </div>', '1228161522', '1228161513', '2008-12-01')
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